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Re: Jamboree On the Air (JOTA) 2019 - October 19th

Orion, AI6JB
 

Good Morning Everyone,

I meet with Troop 22's Scoutmaster, Greg Kramer, at Gibson Ranch Park yesterday afternoon.  What a great site!!  See the pictures in the Jamboree On The Air (JOTA) sub-group.  We have plenty of green grass to spread out with open areas to erect antenna masts and even a few trees to hang an antenna or two.

Greg has a guy who will setup solar power for us to use and they will provide lunch!!

They now have over 200 scouts registered to attend!!  I was so excited that I told him to advertise we will be there.  We agreed SFARC would have a JOTA station running from about 9:00 to 15:00.  We can start setup on Friday at 16:00, maybe a little earlier (he will let me know).

Our JOTA station will be a part of a larger BSA Scouts event called The Eternal Flame.  They will be retiring American Flags non-stop starting at 20:00 on Friday, 10/18/19, night until 10:00 Sunday, 10/20/19.  He said you are all welcome to come watch at anytime.  Gibson Ranch Park is located in Elverta, CA.  If you point your GPS to 8554 Gibson Ranch Park Rd, Elverta, CA 95626, it will get you very close to our position.

If you are interested in coming on out or working a station, please let me know or subscribe to the JOTA Sub-Group.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.

73
Orion, AI6JB

Re: Donations for the Club Auction

Brian Gohl - AI6US
 

I am in Meadow Vista, but if you need a place to drop off the items, I'll make sure they get to the sale.

Best Regards! 
Brian Gohl - AI6US 
(916) 770-7751 cell

-------- Original message --------
From: Michael - W6QB <radioman@...>
Date: 10/8/19 5:11 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: sfarc@w6ek.groups.io
Subject: [from W6EK Groups.io] Donations for the Club Auction

 

I have some donations for the club auction on Friday from Gary Willett – kb7qwc.

I have them because Gary is recovering from Gall Bladder surgery.

I may not be able to make it to the meeting Friday in part because of the pending power interruption, I’m in Foresthill.

Would someone be willing to take them to the meeting?  I can deliver to the Auburn area.

 

Thanks,

Mike

 

 

_._,_._,_

 


--
Brian- AI6US

Upcoming Event: SFARC Net - Thu, 10/10/2019 7:30pm-8:30pm #cal-reminder

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Reminder: SFARC Net

When: Thursday, 10 October 2019, 7:30pm to 8:30pm, (GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:W6EK Repeater - 145.430 -600, PL162.2

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Description: Check-in for Club updates from Officers and members, QSTs and more. Everyone is welcome!

Re: Donations for the Club Auction

Greg D
 

Auburn's in the cross-hairs for power outage, too. 

Hopefully power will either remain on, or be back in time for the meeting!

Greg  KO6TH


Michael - W6QB wrote:

 

I have some donations for the club auction on Friday from Gary Willett – kb7qwc.

I have them because Gary is recovering from Gall Bladder surgery.

I may not be able to make it to the meeting Friday in part because of the pending power interruption, I’m in Foresthill.

Would someone be willing to take them to the meeting?  I can deliver to the Auburn area.

 

Thanks,

Mike

 

 


Donations for the Club Auction

Michael - W6QB
 

 

I have some donations for the club auction on Friday from Gary Willett – kb7qwc.

I have them because Gary is recovering from Gall Bladder surgery.

I may not be able to make it to the meeting Friday in part because of the pending power interruption, I’m in Foresthill.

Would someone be willing to take them to the meeting?  I can deliver to the Auburn area.

 

Thanks,

Mike

 

 

_._,_._,_

 

Re: Shingles and not the composition type

Gerry - WA6E
 

Got mine a couple of months ago - a couple of months apart.  Arm got sore, of course, but the next day I was lethargic and felt as though I was coming down with the flu.  Day after that - all was well.  Shingles can be painful.

Gerry

On 10/8/2019 1:32 PM, Michael - KK6GLP wrote:
Got mine (first shot) an hour ago. Beats getting shingles.

Mike KK6GLP


On Oct 8, 2019, at 12:45 PM, Jim - N6MED <n6medjim@...> wrote:

A bit off topic (ok, a whole lot off topic) FYI, but a nota bene to my brother vets in the club who might not already know: the VA had finally received the recombinant Zoster (Shingles) vaccine (trade name Shingrex). Even if you've already gotten the "Zostavax" live shingles vaccine, you would benefit from the two-injection series of Shingrex due to its 90% efficacy against getting shingles.

Be nice to the nurse or murse who gives it to you. You don't want him/her to tap the needle on the table before sticking it in your arm...
n6med

White Elephant Table Premier

Jim - WA8MPA
 

Two great units will be available on Friday:
Heathkit DX 60A CW transmitter & manual
Swan 350B HF Transceiver & manual 
( with mic & Ac power supply)
Both in mint condition, tubes checked and tested
on air!

Jim
WA8MPA

Re: Shingles and not the composition type

Michael - N6MRP
 

Got mine (first shot) an hour ago. Beats getting shingles.

Mike KK6GLP


On Oct 8, 2019, at 12:45 PM, Jim - N6MED <n6medjim@...> wrote:

A bit off topic (ok, a whole lot off topic) FYI, but a nota bene to my brother vets in the club who might not already know: the VA had finally received the recombinant Zoster (Shingles) vaccine (trade name Shingrex). Even if you've already gotten the "Zostavax" live shingles vaccine, you would benefit from the two-injection series of Shingrex due to its 90% efficacy against getting shingles.

Be nice to the nurse or murse who gives it to you. You don't want him/her to tap the needle on the table before sticking it in your arm...
n6med

Shingles and not the composition type

Jim - N6MED
 

A bit off topic (ok, a whole lot off topic) FYI, but a nota bene to my brother vets in the club who might not already know: the VA had finally received the recombinant Zoster (Shingles) vaccine (trade name Shingrex). Even if you've already gotten the "Zostavax" live shingles vaccine, you would benefit from the two-injection series of Shingrex due to its 90% efficacy against getting shingles.

Be nice to the nurse or murse who gives it to you. You don't want him/her to tap the needle on the table before sticking it in your arm...
n6med

Re: Jamboree On the Air (JOTA) 2019 - October 19th

Nathan Chilton - K6NDC
 

I can drive down from Auburn for this.  
:-)
--Nathan K6NDC

Re: Jamboree On the Air (JOTA) 2019 - October 19th

Michael - N6MRP
 

Yes, I can go to Elverta.

Mike KK6GLP

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 12:49 PM Orion, AI6JB <ojendres@...> wrote:
Hi Everyone,

I was thinking Recreation Park in Auburn would be our JOTA site for this year, until I received a phone call this morning from Troop 22 in Antelope.  They host a Scouting event each year called The Eternal Flame at Gibson Ranch Park.  They retire American Flags non-stop starting Friday evening until Sunday Morning on the same weekend as JOTA.  In addition to flag retirements, the will many other scouting activities on Saturday, e.g. merit badges, tomahawk throwing, etc ...  They were hoping to offer Amateur Radio.  Currently, they have about 100 scouts registered to attend and are expecting 200 in the end.  Scouts typically come with friends and family, so the total attendance will be north of 200.

I will be meeting the Scout Leader tomorrow afternoon to walk the site.  If it proves to be viable, would you all be willing to drive to Gibson Ranch in Elverta?

73
Orion, AI6JB

Re: Jamboree On the Air (JOTA) 2019 - October 19th

Greg D
 

Works for me.

Greg  KO6TH


Orion, AI6JB wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I was thinking Recreation Park in Auburn would be our JOTA site for this year, until I received a phone call this morning from Troop 22 in Antelope.  They host a Scouting event each year called The Eternal Flame at Gibson Ranch Park.  They retire American Flags non-stop starting Friday evening until Sunday Morning on the same weekend as JOTA.  In addition to flag retirements, the will many other scouting activities on Saturday, e.g. merit badges, tomahawk throwing, etc ...  They were hoping to offer Amateur Radio.  Currently, they have about 100 scouts registered to attend and are expecting 200 in the end.  Scouts typically come with friends and family, so the total attendance will be north of 200.

I will be meeting the Scout Leader tomorrow afternoon to walk the site.  If it proves to be viable, would you all be willing to drive to Gibson Ranch in Elverta?

73
Orion, AI6JB

Re: Jamboree On the Air (JOTA) 2019 - October 19th

Orion, AI6JB
 

Hi Everyone,

I was thinking Recreation Park in Auburn would be our JOTA site for this year, until I received a phone call this morning from Troop 22 in Antelope.  They host a Scouting event each year called The Eternal Flame at Gibson Ranch Park.  They retire American Flags non-stop starting Friday evening until Sunday Morning on the same weekend as JOTA.  In addition to flag retirements, the will many other scouting activities on Saturday, e.g. merit badges, tomahawk throwing, etc ...  They were hoping to offer Amateur Radio.  Currently, they have about 100 scouts registered to attend and are expecting 200 in the end.  Scouts typically come with friends and family, so the total attendance will be north of 200.

I will be meeting the Scout Leader tomorrow afternoon to walk the site.  If it proves to be viable, would you all be willing to drive to Gibson Ranch in Elverta?

73
Orion, AI6JB

Re: California ends Amateur radio Support

Aaron K6ABJ
 

Very well said!

Aaron, K6ABJ 

On Oct 6, 2019, at 2:38 PM, Earl Wilson <earlw@...> wrote:

Bob,

Good that you have brought up the subject for discussion.  Hopefully this will bring a clear resolution that will be in effect for a long time that will enable good communication planning for the future.  Thanks for jumping in.

Earl, K6GPB

On 10/5/2019 15:24, Bob Brodovsky wrote:
I have purposely remained quiet since posting my video. I did that for two reason, the first was the shear number of responses, good, bad, crazy ect.. is overwhelming. The second is because this has caused such an uproar, I am getting additional information now from both the attorney for the repeater group and the State of CA. The state has reached out off the record through someone we all know and trust as a source. I can't give specific but an un named senior official told my source that my video has caused the state to elevate this issue to get resolved and to develop both an official response and a concrete policy regarding ham radio repeaters on state property. 

Now for those that keep insisting this is about revenue and hams paying for rack space, my bitch isn't the fact that some repeater owners got a letter to remove equipment, rather they got this letter:

Hello :

I do understand and appreciate all of the service you have provided in the past. However, with constantly changing technological advances, there is no longer the same benefit to State as previously provided. Therefore, the Department no longer financially supports HAM operators radios or tenancy. If you desire to enter into a formal agreement to operate and maintain said equipment, you must complete and submit attached collocation application along with fee as outlined on page one of application. 

There is cost associated with getting an agreement in place. In addition to the technical analysis fee ($2500/application), there is DGS Lease admin cost associated (typically between $3000-$5000) with preparation of lease. Also, there will be an annual rent charge based upon equipment type/space.

 Please let me know how you wish to proceed. If you determine the cost is too great to proceed, please make arrangements with me to remove equipment. If you still have questions, please do not hesitate to ask. I am much more readily available via email.

Now, I don't know if this lady drank too much AT&T FirstNet Koolaid or if she was just ignorant of what Ham Radio actually provide the public, but what she wrote is on it's face and until the state  or Cal Fire officially over rides it The policy and opinion of the State, Full Stop. Any reasonable & prudent person receiving such letter from the government would believe it so.  And because it hasn't been immediately felt with at the Cal Fire and OES level, People are still dealing with it. 

Now had the State sent letters out to repeater owners stating something to the effect of: Dear Repeater owner, After an audit of our communications vault we discovered your private repeater is currently housed there. The State can no longer financially absorb the operation of private ham radio repeaters … that, if any affected repeater is in any way involved with local emergency or government support activity, they should ask that agency to engage with CAL FIRE concerning the repeater.  If the agency makes the case, there is a good chance that the repeater will be unaffected. We wouldn't be having this discussion now. 

As for the $7500 application fee, That business speak for screw you, get your radio out of my building. Now, I'll be doing an update video when I have an official response from the State. As for the ARRL, I'm surprised at their response of 
The State of California has not made any determination we can find  "that Ham Radio [is] no longer a benefit. In the face of with constantly changing technological advances, there is no longer the same benefit to State as previously provided. I'm really disappointed in that tepid response. It's apparent the ARRL doesn't want to step up and at least call the State on an official statement that was made. 
I'm only writing this to you guys because your my friends and my club mates. You can disagree with me if you want but if you look at the fact on the face there's no argument. 

Bob K6UDA

 

 

ISS Tracking Globe

carl.wf6j@gmail.com
 

I get info from Instructables all the time. This showed up today…


73, de WF6J





Re: California ends Amateur radio Support

Earl Wilson
 

Bob,

Good that you have brought up the subject for discussion.  Hopefully this will bring a clear resolution that will be in effect for a long time that will enable good communication planning for the future.  Thanks for jumping in.

Earl, K6GPB

On 10/5/2019 15:24, Bob Brodovsky wrote:
I have purposely remained quiet since posting my video. I did that for two reason, the first was the shear number of responses, good, bad, crazy ect.. is overwhelming. The second is because this has caused such an uproar, I am getting additional information now from both the attorney for the repeater group and the State of CA. The state has reached out off the record through someone we all know and trust as a source. I can't give specific but an un named senior official told my source that my video has caused the state to elevate this issue to get resolved and to develop both an official response and a concrete policy regarding ham radio repeaters on state property. 

Now for those that keep insisting this is about revenue and hams paying for rack space, my bitch isn't the fact that some repeater owners got a letter to remove equipment, rather they got this letter:

Hello :

I do understand and appreciate all of the service you have provided in the past. However, with constantly changing technological advances, there is no longer the same benefit to State as previously provided. Therefore, the Department no longer financially supports HAM operators radios or tenancy. If you desire to enter into a formal agreement to operate and maintain said equipment, you must complete and submit attached collocation application along with fee as outlined on page one of application. 

There is cost associated with getting an agreement in place. In addition to the technical analysis fee ($2500/application), there is DGS Lease admin cost associated (typically between $3000-$5000) with preparation of lease. Also, there will be an annual rent charge based upon equipment type/space.

 Please let me know how you wish to proceed. If you determine the cost is too great to proceed, please make arrangements with me to remove equipment. If you still have questions, please do not hesitate to ask. I am much more readily available via email.

Now, I don't know if this lady drank too much AT&T FirstNet Koolaid or if she was just ignorant of what Ham Radio actually provide the public, but what she wrote is on it's face and until the state  or Cal Fire officially over rides it The policy and opinion of the State, Full Stop. Any reasonable & prudent person receiving such letter from the government would believe it so.  And because it hasn't been immediately felt with at the Cal Fire and OES level, People are still dealing with it. 

Now had the State sent letters out to repeater owners stating something to the effect of: Dear Repeater owner, After an audit of our communications vault we discovered your private repeater is currently housed there. The State can no longer financially absorb the operation of private ham radio repeaters … that, if any affected repeater is in any way involved with local emergency or government support activity, they should ask that agency to engage with CAL FIRE concerning the repeater.  If the agency makes the case, there is a good chance that the repeater will be unaffected. We wouldn't be having this discussion now. 

As for the $7500 application fee, That business speak for screw you, get your radio out of my building. Now, I'll be doing an update video when I have an official response from the State. As for the ARRL, I'm surprised at their response of 
The State of California has not made any determination we can find  "that Ham Radio [is] no longer a benefit. In the face of with constantly changing technological advances, there is no longer the same benefit to State as previously provided. I'm really disappointed in that tepid response. It's apparent the ARRL doesn't want to step up and at least call the State on an official statement that was made. 
I'm only writing this to you guys because your my friends and my club mates. You can disagree with me if you want but if you look at the fact on the face there's no argument. 

Bob K6UDA

 

 

Re: A bit more information about the possible removal of a repeater in Shingletown

Aaron K6ABJ
 

“Shy” should have been “shared”.  Stupid autocorrect.

Aaron

On Oct 5, 2019, at 7:21 PM, Aaron K6ABJ via Groups.Io <aaron@...> wrote:

Hello Gary,

Thank you for shy the killdozer story.  I hadn’t hear of it. Sadly killdozer stories will continue to occur as the more crazy and unreasonable society becomes.  

Aaron, K6ABJ 

On Oct 5, 2019, at 10:22 AM, Gary KC3PO <kc3po@...> wrote:

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 09:50 AM, Jef - N5JEF wrote:
But I would like to point out that fighting City Hall (usually) tends to be a losing battle, even though it may be worth fighting.
 

Not going to say I condone it necessarily... but this is exactly what brought about the "KillDozer". I was living in Colorado when that happened, and remember it well. The wrath of Killdozer fury was unleashed on my dad's birthday. If you've never heard of it, it's easy to Google or search on YouTube.

Her choice of wording in the letter was an ignorant slap in the face... that's the main thing for me. There are certainly alternatives in most cases.

- Gary  KC3PO

Re: A bit more information about the possible removal of a repeater in Shingletown

Aaron K6ABJ
 

Hello Gary,

Thank you for shy the killdozer story.  I hadn’t hear of it. Sadly killdozer stories will continue to occur as the more crazy and unreasonable society becomes.  

Aaron, K6ABJ 

On Oct 5, 2019, at 10:22 AM, Gary KC3PO <kc3po@...> wrote:

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 09:50 AM, Jef - N5JEF wrote:
But I would like to point out that fighting City Hall (usually) tends to be a losing battle, even though it may be worth fighting.
 

Not going to say I condone it necessarily... but this is exactly what brought about the "KillDozer". I was living in Colorado when that happened, and remember it well. The wrath of Killdozer fury was unleashed on my dad's birthday. If you've never heard of it, it's easy to Google or search on YouTube.

Her choice of wording in the letter was an ignorant slap in the face... that's the main thing for me. There are certainly alternatives in most cases.

- Gary  KC3PO

Re: California ends Amateur radio Support

Jef - N5JEF
 

Bob: I agree with much of what you said, and respect your position on all of it.

Gary:  Yes, the response was undoubtedly ignorant and bureaucratic. As might be expected. Can't say I would use the KillDozer guy as an example of much other than crazy.

- Jef  

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 3:33 PM Bob Brodovsky <k6udaradio@...> wrote:
And please excuse Mac OS auto correct. It sucks. 

Re: California ends Amateur radio Support

Bob Brodovsky
 

And please excuse Mac OS auto correct. It sucks.