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Re: What is a Field Day "Dupe Sheet" #fieldday

Skip - K6DGW
 

One has to go back to the days when we logged on paper for the origins of "Dupe Sheet." There were usually two ops at each position, one on the radio, one logging. Everyone knows what the log looked like ... columns for date, time, call, exchange -- entries in chronological order. If you changed bands or modes, a note in the margin. The dupe sheet was divided into ten blocks, one for each call area. As stations were worked, the logger wrote the suffix in the appropriate block. It was common to split the blocks to permit doing this alphabetically [or at least alphabetically on the first letter of the suffix]. This made it fairly easy for the logger to quickly scan the sheet and advise the other op that a station was or was not a dupe. N1MM will show a dupe sheet for you, it's in the Windows-->Visible Dupesheet selection.

Note that when the above was the FD technique, we had W and K prefixes only. Now, with those plus N's and A's, it would be a bit more complex. Since the dupe sheet was essentially a list of stations worked, ARRL specified that it be submitted with the summary. Today, they just want a list of calls, but will take a log ... which of course is just a list of calls worked.

Thus endeth the Ancient Ham History lesson for D-Day, 2020.

73,
Fred K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn

PS: The whole 2020 COVID Field Day saga has been inflated to a Big Deal, which is really isn't. ARRL initially said, "No rule changes" including no discussion of the reasons behind the decision, a common practice for ARRL. After serious member uproar, the PSC met in extraordinary session and decided:

1. Anybody can work anybody for points [2 CW, 1 Phone as usual] regardless of entry class

2. Any group who wants to can call themselves a club, team, congregation, group, ... and combine their individual scores for publication in FD results regardless of where the individual stations are.

Rules regarding entry classes did not change.

Re: What is a Field Day "Dupe Sheet" #fieldday

Dennis - WU6X
 

I totally agree, Gerry. Paul at ARRL is doing his best, I suppose, but the rules for FD need to be re-written. There are many contests I participate in that have much clearer rules. You read them an know precisely what to do without any obscure meaning, or the need to have a "secret decoder ring" from a cereal box of yester-year. Sorry ... had to throw that in!
Dennis, WU6X


From: sfarc@w6ek.groups.io <sfarc@w6ek.groups.io> on behalf of Gerry - WA6E <gjbrent@...>
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 7:20 AM
To: sfarc@w6ek.groups.io <sfarc@w6ek.groups.io>; ojendres@... <ojendres@...>
Subject: Re: [from W6EK Groups.io] What is a Field Day "Dupe Sheet" #fieldday
 
Orion-

Thank you SO much for devoting your entire night to the research of this important question.  I am very pleased that after, what I am sure, was many cups of coffee or other beverage you found the answer.

I can live with Paul's answer but it is not intuitively obvious.  I would think a "dupe sheet" would be a listing of stations worked that somehow were duplicated and don't count.  What this really refers to is your log.  How strange.  Maybe the word "dupe" as used by the ARRL doesn't mean "duplicate" but, rather, comes from the latin phrase "dupicatas illigitimai" which has two meanings one of which is "stupid" and the other of which is "logbook."  OK, I made that up but referring to my log as a dupe sheet makes just about as much sense.

Gerry
WA6E


On 6/5/2020 7:00 AM, Orion, AI6JB wrote:
Gerry, WA6E, asked in last night's Field Day Q&A:  What is a Dupe Sheet?

Well, unfortunately, no one, including me, had an answer.  So I spent the entire night since then, searching relentlessly the bowels of the internet archives for an answer.  NOT, this answer just dropped into my lap this morning.  It comes by way of the ARRL Contest reflector.  Paul, N1SFE, ARRL Contest Program Mgr, provided the proper citation.

A Dupe Sheet is defined by Section 8.6 of the Field Day Rules as a list of stations worked sorted by band and mode.  Here is a bogus Dupe Sheet I created from the N3FJP software:

Call Used: AI6JB  Class: 1B  ARRL Section: SV
 
Dupe Sheet
 
40  CW
K6GPB
40  CW  Total Contacts = 1
 
40  DIG
WU6X
40  DIG  Total Contacts = 1
 
40  PH
K6NDC
KM6RGO
40  PH  Total Contacts = 2
 
20  DIG
AI6US
WA6E
WU6X
20  DIG  Total Contacts = 3

Etc ...

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask.  This and other questions asked are on our SFARC Groups.io Wiki.

73
Orion, AI6JB

 




--
Dennis - WU6X

Re: What is a Field Day "Dupe Sheet" #fieldday

Gerry - WA6E
 

Orion-

Thank you SO much for devoting your entire night to the research of this important question.  I am very pleased that after, what I am sure, was many cups of coffee or other beverage you found the answer.

I can live with Paul's answer but it is not intuitively obvious.  I would think a "dupe sheet" would be a listing of stations worked that somehow were duplicated and don't count.  What this really refers to is your log.  How strange.  Maybe the word "dupe" as used by the ARRL doesn't mean "duplicate" but, rather, comes from the latin phrase "dupicatas illigitimai" which has two meanings one of which is "stupid" and the other of which is "logbook."  OK, I made that up but referring to my log as a dupe sheet makes just about as much sense.

Gerry
WA6E


On 6/5/2020 7:00 AM, Orion, AI6JB wrote:
Gerry, WA6E, asked in last night's Field Day Q&A:  What is a Dupe Sheet?

Well, unfortunately, no one, including me, had an answer.  So I spent the entire night since then, searching relentlessly the bowels of the internet archives for an answer.  NOT, this answer just dropped into my lap this morning.  It comes by way of the ARRL Contest reflector.  Paul, N1SFE, ARRL Contest Program Mgr, provided the proper citation.

A Dupe Sheet is defined by Section 8.6 of the Field Day Rules as a list of stations worked sorted by band and mode.  Here is a bogus Dupe Sheet I created from the N3FJP software:

Call Used: AI6JB  Class: 1B  ARRL Section: SV
 
Dupe Sheet
 
40  CW
K6GPB
40  CW  Total Contacts = 1
 
40  DIG
WU6X
40  DIG  Total Contacts = 1
 
40  PH
K6NDC
KM6RGO
40  PH  Total Contacts = 2
 
20  DIG
AI6US
WA6E
WU6X
20  DIG  Total Contacts = 3

Etc ...

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask.  This and other questions asked are on our SFARC Groups.io Wiki.

73
Orion, AI6JB

 



What is a Field Day "Dupe Sheet" #fieldday

Orion, AI6JB
 

Gerry, WA6E, asked in last night's Field Day Q&A:  What is a Dupe Sheet?

Well, unfortunately, no one, including me, had an answer.  So I spent the entire night since then, searching relentlessly the bowels of the internet archives for an answer.  NOT, this answer just dropped into my lap this morning.  It comes by way of the ARRL Contest reflector.  Paul, N1SFE, ARRL Contest Program Mgr, provided the proper citation.

A Dupe Sheet is defined by Section 8.6 of the Field Day Rules as a list of stations worked sorted by band and mode.  Here is a bogus Dupe Sheet I created from the N3FJP software:

Call Used: AI6JB  Class: 1B  ARRL Section: SV
 
Dupe Sheet
 
40  CW
K6GPB
40  CW  Total Contacts = 1
 
40  DIG
WU6X
40  DIG  Total Contacts = 1
 
40  PH
K6NDC
KM6RGO
40  PH  Total Contacts = 2
 
20  DIG
AI6US
WA6E
WU6X
20  DIG  Total Contacts = 3

Etc ...

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask.  This and other questions asked are on our SFARC Groups.io Wiki.

73
Orion, AI6JB

 


SFARC Net - Thu, 06/04/2020 #cal-notice

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Re: Field Day and FT8

Gerry - WA6E
 

The suggestion comes from an article written by Joe Taylor, K1JT, appearing on pages 72 and 73 of the January 2019 QST.  He was suggesting alternative frequencies for FT8 to avoid conflict in the RTTY contest.  Given that the receiving windows are so small (2 to 3 KHz) if I use the alternative frequencies I won't hear anybody using the traditional frequencies.  I  hate to be down there all by myself.  Here is a photo of the "Suggested Frequencies" box that appears on page 72 of that article:

save image

So let us know what you find out.  Thanks.

Gerry
WA6E



On 6/4/2020 3:35 PM, Herb - KM6JBI wrote:
I plan on running FT8 as well

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:39 AM Orion, AI6JB <ojendres@...> wrote:
That is an excellent question Gerry!

The only FT8 references I could find in the Field Day planning packet (http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2020/2020%20Field%20Day%20Packet%20Rev%20a.pdf) are for 6m and up.  Nothing said about HF.

I will pose the question to the ARRL Contest Groups.io site to see they come up with anything.

73
Orion Endres, AI6JB
1201 Wood Oak Court, Roseville, CA 95747-7383
(916) 788-8251 H \\ (916) 534-8251 C

What the heck does “73” mean?  73 is morse code short hand for “Best Regards” used by Ham radio operators.  It’s origin goes all the way back to the landline telegraph days.





-----Original Message-----
From: sfarc@w6ek.groups.io <sfarc@w6ek.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerry - WA6E
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 10:51
To: sfarc@w6ek.groups.io
Subject: [from W6EK Groups.io] Field Day and FT8

I'm planning to try FT8 for Field Day.  Last year the ARRL had some different frequencies for FT8 use on Field Day.  For example, for 20 meters they said to use 14.080 instead of 14.074.  Similarly they specified 28.080, 21.080, 7.080 and 3.570.  Does anybody know if those will be the FT8 frequencies for this year?

Gerry
WA6E









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Doug - W2VX
 

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Re: Field Day and FT8

Herb - KM6JBI
 

I plan on running FT8 as well


On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:39 AM Orion, AI6JB <ojendres@...> wrote:
That is an excellent question Gerry!

The only FT8 references I could find in the Field Day planning packet (http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2020/2020%20Field%20Day%20Packet%20Rev%20a.pdf) are for 6m and up.  Nothing said about HF.

I will pose the question to the ARRL Contest Groups.io site to see they come up with anything.

73
Orion Endres, AI6JB
1201 Wood Oak Court, Roseville, CA 95747-7383
(916) 788-8251 H \\ (916) 534-8251 C

What the heck does “73” mean?  73 is morse code short hand for “Best Regards” used by Ham radio operators.  It’s origin goes all the way back to the landline telegraph days.





-----Original Message-----
From: sfarc@w6ek.groups.io <sfarc@w6ek.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerry - WA6E
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 10:51
To: sfarc@w6ek.groups.io
Subject: [from W6EK Groups.io] Field Day and FT8

I'm planning to try FT8 for Field Day.  Last year the ARRL had some different frequencies for FT8 use on Field Day.  For example, for 20 meters they said to use 14.080 instead of 14.074.  Similarly they specified 28.080, 21.080, 7.080 and 3.570.  Does anybody know if those will be the FT8 frequencies for this year?

Gerry
WA6E









--
Herb Garcia, KM6JBI

Re: Satellite Viewing Tonight

Nathan Chilton - K6NDC
 

I'm excited to look for these things tonight!

Re: Field Day and FT8

Orion, AI6JB
 

That is an excellent question Gerry!

The only FT8 references I could find in the Field Day planning packet (http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2020/2020%20Field%20Day%20Packet%20Rev%20a.pdf) are for 6m and up. Nothing said about HF.

I will pose the question to the ARRL Contest Groups.io site to see they come up with anything.

73
Orion Endres, AI6JB
1201 Wood Oak Court, Roseville, CA 95747-7383
(916) 788-8251 H \\ (916) 534-8251 C

What the heck does “73” mean? 73 is morse code short hand for “Best Regards” used by Ham radio operators. It’s origin goes all the way back to the landline telegraph days.

-----Original Message-----
From: sfarc@w6ek.groups.io <sfarc@w6ek.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerry - WA6E
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 10:51
To: sfarc@w6ek.groups.io
Subject: [from W6EK Groups.io] Field Day and FT8

I'm planning to try FT8 for Field Day. Last year the ARRL had some different frequencies for FT8 use on Field Day. For example, for 20 meters they said to use 14.080 instead of 14.074. Similarly they specified 28.080, 21.080, 7.080 and 3.570. Does anybody know if those will be the FT8 frequencies for this year?

Gerry
WA6E

Re: Satellite Viewing Tonight

Greg D
 

Also, there will be a visual pass of the International Space Station beginning around 9:09pm.  Something worth adding to the sky-gazing adventure tonight.  It should appear in the North-West, climbing to 40 degrees to the South-West at 9:13pm, then passing into the Earth's shadow to the South-East at 9:17pm.  If you have an APRS radio, tune it to 145.825 and see if the Stations' digipeater is active.

Don't forget to wave as they fly by.

Greg  KO6TH


Gerry - WA6E wrote:

Sorry for previous post.  Forgot to change subject line.

Last night SpaceX launched another 60 Starlink satellites into orbit.  According to the website we have consulted before, we should be able to see those satellites pass over tonight starting at about 9:38 pm.  Path is more-or-less from the west to the NE pretty high in the sky.  Because the satellites were just launched and are grouped together the pass will last for just a few minutes.  If you have seen previous passes, they have lasted for quite awhile as the satellites had spaced out.  So estimated start is 9:38pm and last 3 or 4 minutes.

The difference now is that, as best I can tell, all 60 satellites are grouped together - they haven't spread out yet.  So those reports of seeing them looking like a "string of pearls" may apply tonight.

The skies should be clear for good viewing.

Gerry
WA6E



Field Day and FT8

Gerry - WA6E
 

I'm planning to try FT8 for Field Day.  Last year the ARRL had some different frequencies for FT8 use on Field Day.  For example, for 20 meters they said to use 14.080 instead of 14.074.  Similarly they specified 28.080, 21.080, 7.080 and 3.570.  Does anybody know if those will be the FT8 frequencies for this year?

Gerry
WA6E

Satellite Viewing Tonight

Gerry - WA6E
 

Sorry for previous post.  Forgot to change subject line.

Last night SpaceX launched another 60 Starlink satellites into orbit.  According to the website we have consulted before, we should be able to see those satellites pass over tonight starting at about 9:38 pm.  Path is more-or-less from the west to the NE pretty high in the sky.  Because the satellites were just launched and are grouped together the pass will last for just a few minutes.  If you have seen previous passes, they have lasted for quite awhile as the satellites had spaced out.  So estimated start is 9:38pm and last 3 or 4 minutes.

The difference now is that, as best I can tell, all 60 satellites are grouped together - they haven't spread out yet.  So those reports of seeing them looking like a "string of pearls" may apply tonight.

The skies should be clear for good viewing.

Gerry
WA6E


Re: The Great ARRL Balloon Race #QST

Gerry - WA6E
 

Last night SpaceX launched another 60 Starlink satellites into orbit.  According to the website we have consulted before, we should be able to see those satellites pass over tonight starting at about 9:38 pm.  Path is more-or-less from the west to the NE pretty high in the sky.  Because the satellites were just launched and are grouped together the pass will last for just a few minutes.  If you have seen previous passes, they have lasted for quite awhile as the satellites had spaced out.  So estimated start is 9:38pm and last 3 or 4 minutes.

The difference now is that, as best I can tell, all 60 satellites are grouped together - they haven't spread out yet.  So those reports of seeing them looking like a "string of pearls" may apply tonight.

The skies should be clear for good viewing.

Gerry
WA6E


Upcoming Event: VE Exams Session #ve - Sat, 06/06/2020 8:00am-9:00am #ve #cal-reminder

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Reminder: VE Exams Session #ve

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Organizer: Andrew Silvester K6OP@...

Description: This event may now be offered online. Please send an email to the event organizer if you are interested in attending.
To study for the FCC Technician-level license online. click here.
For the Technician question pool click here.
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Upcoming Event: Field Day 2020 Q&A - Thu, 06/04/2020 8:15pm-9:15pm #cal-reminder

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Reminder: Field Day 2020 Q&A

When: Thursday, 4 June 2020, 8:15pm to 9:15pm, (GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

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Organizer: Orion Endres ai6jb@... 916.534.8251

Description: Come join us for a Question and Answer session on Field Day 2020.  This year's Field Day is different.  Join us and ask your questions.

Everyone is invited.  "There's no such thing as a stupid question, as long as it ends in a question mark."  Even if you know everything, please come and share your knowledge with those of us who are on our quest of enlightenment.


You may join our meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone.
 
 
You can also dial in using your phone.
(For supported devices, tap a one-touch number below to join instantly.)
 
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Re: The Great ARRL Balloon Race #QST

Greg D
 

Hi Rich,

If you click on the Loomis object, you should find that it's a locator for our Hamfest, along with info on the event.  I put it there.  There's no "hamfest" icon, so using an "eyeball QSO" icon is as close as I could come.

Greg  KO6TH


Richard - AA6RS wrote:

Is there a symbol key to the APRS.fi web page? What does the big blue eyeball in Loomis labeled w6ek mean?

Rich Aa6rs

 

Richard Snyder

m  510-918-3409

AA6RS@...

 

               "In small things considered is the world revealed"


On Jun 2, 2020, at 10:42, Dennis - WU6X <wu6x@...> wrote:


As publicized in ARRL, the Balloons were launched this morning from parts of Southern California, as well as an entry from Berkeley Ca. kk6uuq-8 is cruising along close to 27,000 ft near Sacramento. The other entries k7hak-11, km6bwb-9, kn6eqv-2, are gliding along from there Southern California locations. You can view their progress by entering aprs.fi in the google search and entering the balloons call sign.
How far will they go?
73's Mike kb6usj
PIO Calaveras Amateur Radio Society

Upcoming Event: SFARC Net - Thu, 06/04/2020 7:30pm-8:30pm #cal-reminder

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Upcoming Event: Elmer Net - Wed, 06/03/2020 7:30pm-8:30pm #cal-reminder

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The Elmer Net meets every 1st and 3rd Wednesday, and is devoted to answering your questions, solving puzzling issues related to ham radio, and scheduling help for all Hams. No question is "stupid". We encourage everyone to ask away so we can all learn and grow our knowledge together. Web address: http://w6ek.org/nets.html

Re: The Great ARRL Balloon Race #QST

Dennis - WU6X
 

If you go to the APRS website you simply enter the call sign in the search box. 

Dennis, WU6X 

On Jun 2, 2020, at 4:45 PM, Gerry - WA6E <gjbrent@...> wrote:

 Try this:  http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?call=kk6uuq-8

Substitute the kk6uuq-8 call sign with the  other calls to see those balloons.

Gerry
WA6E

On 6/2/2020 3:53 PM, Richard - AA6RS wrote:
Is there a symbol key to the APRS.fi web page? What does the big blue eyeball in Loomis labeled w6ek mean?

Rich Aa6rs

 

Richard Snyder

m  510-918-3409

AA6RS@...

 

               "In small things considered is the world revealed"


On Jun 2, 2020, at 10:42, Dennis - WU6X <wu6x@...> wrote:


As publicized in ARRL, the Balloons were launched this morning from parts of Southern California, as well as an entry from Berkeley Ca. kk6uuq-8 is cruising along close to 27,000 ft near Sacramento. The other entries k7hak-11, km6bwb-9, kn6eqv-2, are gliding along from there Southern California locations. You can view their progress by entering aprs.fi in the google search and entering the balloons call sign.
How far will they go?
73's Mike kb6usj
PIO Calaveras Amateur Radio Society


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Dennis - WU6X