Date   

Event: Elmer Net - 12/01/2021 #cal-reminder

sfarc@w6ek.groups.io Calendar <noreply@...>
 

Reminder: Elmer Net

When:
12/01/2021
7:30pm to 8:30pm
(UTC-08:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:
W6EK Repeater - 145.430 -600, PL162.2

View Event

Description:

The Elmer Net meets every 1st and 3rd Wednesday, and is devoted to answering your questions, solving puzzling issues related to ham radio, and scheduling help for all Hams. No question is "stupid". We encourage everyone to ask away so we can all learn and grow our knowledge together. Web address: http://w6ek.org/nets.html


Event: SFARC Net - 12/02/2021 #cal-reminder

sfarc@w6ek.groups.io Calendar <noreply@...>
 

Reminder: SFARC Net

When:
12/02/2021
7:30pm to 8:30pm
(UTC-08:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:
W6EK Repeater - 145.430 -600, PL162.2

View Event

Description:
Check-in for Club updates from Officers and members, QSTs and more. Everyone is welcome!


[You Forgot to Register] Get to Know Zoom Phone

Carl - WF6J
 

SFARC, some stuff for those who want to learn more about ZOOM

Begin forwarded message:

From: "Zoom Video Communications" <webinars@e.zoom.us>
Subject: [You Forgot to Register] Get to Know Zoom Phone
Date: November 30, 2021 at 10:38:16 AM PST


Zoom Logo
Webinar Invite
Get to Know Zoom Phone
Tomorrow, December 1
10am PT | 1pm ET
Zoom Phone is the cloud phone solution for the Zoom platform. Join this webinar and learn how Zoom Phone connects globally, and other key features including the advanced admin dashboard experience, shared line appearance, call queues, and more!
UPCOMING WEBINARS
December 1
Intro to Zoom Webinars
1pm PT | 4pm ET
December 1
Introducing Zoom Events
10am PT | 1pm ET
December 2
Hosting Large Events: Meetings vs Webinars
1pm PT | 4pm ET
SEE ALL WEBINARS   
JOIN A LIVE ZOOM DEMO
Drop in for one of our daily Live Demos with Zoom expert, Raul Montes for an overview of how to schedule, host, and join Zoom meetings.
Mondays2pm
Tuesdays10am or 2pm
Thursdays10am or 2pm
Fridays10am
( All times in PST )
Not in your time zone? Register anyway and we will send you a link to the recording.
TwitterLinkedInBlog
+1.888.799.9666
© 2021 Zoom - All Rights Reserved
Visit zoom.us
Zoom Video Communications, Inc
55 Almaden Blvd #600 San Jose, CA, 95113, US
You're receiving this email because you signed up for a Zoom account.
If you wish to be removed from our email list, unsubscribe.


Re: Baofenging

Rich - KN6JLF
 

Me too! Had the 11C since '82 - and RPN is easier!

Rich
KN6JLF


Re: Baofenging

Dennis - WU6X
 

I have the HP 11C here ... quality and programmable as well. I don't think anyone ever made a better calculator than HP. Of course, I used to work for HP so I might be a tad bit biased?

Dennis - WU6X


From: sfarc@w6ek.groups.io <sfarc@w6ek.groups.io> on behalf of Phil - KM6NFS via groups.io <wp913@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2021 10:48 PM
To: Gerry Brentnall <gjbrent@...>; sfarc@w6ek.groups.io <sfarc@w6ek.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [from W6EK Groups.io] Baofenging
 
I'll add my Baofeng story to the thread. I had a power pack issue that others should be aware of. 

I had plugged the charger wall-wart into the power strip on my desk behind my computer monitor. When I was done using it a few days later, I unplugged it and the wall-wart looked funny to me. It had only one prong! I looked behind my monitor and there was the other prong, sticking out of one of the sockets! If I hadn't noticed the missing prong, and had reached around at the end of the day like I usually do to turn of the power strip and had touched that prong, I stood a 50/50 chance of getting zapped!

So yeah, you get what you pay for.

And my 40 year old HP15C calculator. It still works. I remember paying $120 for it at a "Best" catalog store, and the cashier commenting, "wow, that's a lot for a calculator". It was sure worth it, though.

-Phil KM6NFS

--
Dennis - WU6X


Re: Baofenging

Phil - KM6NFS
 

I'll add my Baofeng story to the thread. I had a power pack issue that others should be aware of. 

I had plugged the charger wall-wart into the power strip on my desk behind my computer monitor. When I was done using it a few days later, I unplugged it and the wall-wart looked funny to me. It had only one prong! I looked behind my monitor and there was the other prong, sticking out of one of the sockets! If I hadn't noticed the missing prong, and had reached around at the end of the day like I usually do to turn of the power strip and had touched that prong, I stood a 50/50 chance of getting zapped!

So yeah, you get what you pay for.

And my 40 year old HP15C calculator. It still works. I remember paying $120 for it at a "Best" catalog store, and the cashier commenting, "wow, that's a lot for a calculator". It was sure worth it, though.

-Phil KM6NFS


Re: Baofenging

Jim - N6MED
 

The German prohibition was written explicitly for the U5R with no mention of the other models Baofeng makes. I agree: I wouldn't lump all the Baofeng's into the "will not pass FCC" type acceptance nor would I lump them all as likely to splatter out of channel. But, for me, I don't trust any of their models without someone on this side of the Pacific pond checking the parameters and spectral purity of each model type. U5Rs and the UV82 have both been know to be dirty where the more recent GS-5B (?) model has been found to be clean.

Based on long history of Chinese manufacturing and questionable quality control, I just don't trust anything coming out of that section of Asia. One need only go back to the history of Seagate going off-shore (China) to manufacture their disk drives. Not until Seagate's own people were put in place to manage quality control did the Chinese problem of cheating be mitigated.


Re: We have a new EXTRA Amoung Us!

Jeff - KM6RGO
 

Congrats Smitty!  Sounds like you played it smartly!

Jeff, KM6RGO
916-849-0736

On Nov 27, 2021, at 3:41 PM, Smitty - K9CCO <K9CCO@...> wrote:


My mom used to tell me I LOVED attention so I'll go with that Orion. :)

As Paul Harvey would say, "here's the rest of the story" (aka. the top 5 reasons I went for it):
  1. I took the extra after I took my general last Friday and failed it, but not by much.  The voice in the back of my head was saying, "Dude, spend a little time studying while it's all fresh and try again.
  2. I was trying to keep up with Anders, that beast took both tests in one sitting. 🙂
  3. I was trying to show others in the club how amazing our SFARC courses are.
  4. I'd like to be a VE for all levels.
  5. I was inspired by my class instructors to "go all the way".
^^ Pick which one you like. 🙂
As Doc Brown says, "When you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything".  Thanks for all the encouragement.

For the rest of you in the club, If you're thinking about remote testing, here's some advice/tips...

I've heard from three people that GLARG does a great job (I believe Anders used them).  AARC was awesome when I tested for my general, GREAT experience.  PARC (the group I used for the extra) left a lot to be desired.  No scratch paper was allowed, I wasn't allowed to use my mouse during the test to select my answers, only the keyboard (got a warning for touching my mouse - did it out of habit).  My hands had to stay on the keyboard and I was given what seemed like 10 minutes (likely closer to 15) but was told I was "almost out of time" which made it extra stressful and left me little to no time to review my answers.  The main VE read off a script the whole time and showed little to no emotion.  I actually asked to scratch my nose a few times during the test because I didn't want to fail since I had already had a warning for using my mouse.

In short, I wouldn't recommend PARC if you're thinking about doing remote testing, BUT highly recommend AARC!!!

73, Smitty (K9CCO/AE)



From: sfarc@w6ek.groups.io <sfarc@w6ek.groups.io> on behalf of Orion - AI6JB <ojendres@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 11:48 AM
To: sfarc@w6ek.groups.io <sfarc@w6ek.groups.io>
Subject: [from W6EK Groups.io] We have a new EXTRA Amoung Us!
 
Our dear attention loving friend Smitty, K9CCO, loved all the congratualtions he received from you all for attainig the General class.    So much so, he needs more!

Everyone, please help me congratulate Smitty, K9CCO/AE, on passing his Extra!

Congratulations Smitty!  Way to go!!

73
Orion, AI6JB

--

73's

Smitty K9CCO


Re: Baofenging

Gerry - WA6E
 

Got my Masters in 1972 in Quant.  A bunch of us in the class negotiated with a local office supply place and bought TI calculators for each of us.  Cost about $125 which we thought was a "deal."  It could add, subtract, multiply and divide.  AND - it had a constant switch which helped in calculus.  It had a LED display. Today that same calculator comes as a prize in a box of cereal.

Gerry
WA6E

On 11/28/2021 10:11 AM, Greg D wrote:
More attention? Less for me. The arithmetic-oriented ones practically
required one to write down the entire problem first, in order to not
mess up the operator precedence.

But yeah, the HP calculators had the best feeling and most robust
keypads. I'm still using a 100LX palmtop that I got in, um, 1992? Same
keyboard technology.

Greg KO6TH


Gerry - WA6E wrote:
I hadn't thought about those old calculators in years. Wasn't one
RPN? Those required more attention when using.

Gerry
WA6E


Re: Baofenging

Greg - KO6TH
 

More attention? Less for me. The arithmetic-oriented ones practically
required one to write down the entire problem first, in order to not
mess up the operator precedence.

But yeah, the HP calculators had the best feeling and most robust
keypads. I'm still using a 100LX palmtop that I got in, um, 1992? Same
keyboard technology.

Greg KO6TH


Gerry - WA6E wrote:

I hadn't thought about those old calculators in years. Wasn't one
RPN? Those required more attention when using.

Gerry
WA6E


Re: Baofenging

Jef - N5JEF
 

I got an HP25 when I was a freshman, and an HP67 (with the little magnetic card reader) when I graduated high school. Loved the quality of the devices, and the elegant RPN style.  Nowadays it's an HP41C emulator on the Android phone.

Brian, thanks for pointing out that the FCC took action on the false claims of  Part 90 compliance, but hasn't acted on Baofeng's typical violation of FCC rules.

Dennis, I've tested a few Baofeng UV5s, all of which fail spectral purity tests in a big way. I bought a couple Baofeng tri-bands for a project last year (adding my own outboard filtering) and those were better but still failed FCC spec.  From a technical engineering perspective I don't see how they could possibly meet specifications for spectral purity over such a broad bandwidth while being so small and cheap. And that's just the transmit side. 

Try standing with a few other hams all using their handhelds on the W6EK VHF repeater from a few miles away (so a moderate received signal strength from the repeater.)  You'll notice that everybody can hear the repeater on their handheld, but if anyone transmits (600kHz offset) the Baofengs will be desensed and not hear anything at all due to their lack of filtering. Better radios will have no problem. Worse if someone operates a full power mobile anywhere in the VHF band (ham, sheriff, etc. as in a critical incident) in a situation where reliable communication might really matter.

I'm not saying that cheap Chinese radios don't have a place in amateur radio, but I wish people were aware of the serious tradeoffs.

- Jef


On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 8:40 AM Gerry Brentnall <gjbrent@...> wrote:
I hadn't thought about those old calculators in years.  Wasn't one RPN?  Those required more attention when using.

Gerry
WA6E

On 11/27/2021 8:32 PM, Dennis - WU6X wrote:
I really don't think you can just lump ALL Baofeng's into the "will not pass FCC" type acceptance category. Certain models are perfectly clean and acceptable. I have a BTech UV-5x3 tri-bander, for example, and it looks beautiful on a communications analyzer, and compares to the Yaesu, Kenwood and Icom at a fraction of the cost.

My only complaint has always been fit and feel, like comparing a Texas Instrument calculator against and HP calculator. The HP just had that feel of quality and button-push perfection the TI calculators never achieved, in my opinion.

73,
Dennis - WU6X


From: sfarc@w6ek.groups.io <sfarc@w6ek.groups.io> on behalf of Jef - N5JEF <jef@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 12:31 PM
To: sfarc@w6ek.groups.io <sfarc@w6ek.groups.io>; n6medjim@... <n6medjim@...>
Subject: Re: [from W6EK Groups.io] Baofenging
 
Jim, thanks for sharing this important but often unpopular information.

  • It's worth adding that it's their dirty _transmit_ performance that causes them to be banned by the FCC, and these European agencies.
  • Their _receive_ performance is similarly unclean and subject to desense (blocking) and IMD (intermodulation distortion), but that affects only the individual user so it's not subject to regulation.

That said, when the unfiltered front end is not being overloaded by the RF around it the Baofeng has good sensitivity and sounds okay on receive. And on transmit most of the time the unfiltered output garbage is not noticeable (by the person using it)—so it's a great radio for the price, and one that you don't need to worry about if you lose it.

[And I've heard that if you take a chance and go ahead and get one of those government-approved radios pushed by the likes of Kenwood, Yaesu, Icom, or Motorola, your friends might notice certain unexpected changes in your radio behavior…such as hearing and talking to people that they they don't…]

So carry on all y'all, and 73.

- Jef  N5JEF 

On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 11:24 AM Jim - N6MED <n6medjim@...> wrote:
For the curious and academically interested due the radio's popularity with many of our club members. Stumbled upon this from a post on the FB group "My ARRL Voice"

https://ei7gl.blogspot.com/2021/11/baofeng-uv5r-is-banned-for-sale-by.html?fbclid=IwAR2JfsINPvKGdaf5DhJ9DHDK3HqmOTxZRKYpVufCJUlkHG0XAB3mSymHw9s

or
https://tinyurl.com/y4frycwv

Hope everyone had a great Bird Day!

--
Dennis - WU6X


Re: We have a new EXTRA Amoung Us!

JoJo Melendres - KN6HTD
 

Congratulations Smitty! Your efforts did pay off very handsomely...good job! I admire your desire to pay forward by doing VE sessions to cover all license classes. In the same manner, you will not have confusion too operating the bands that span the general and extra privileges. You make a great inspiration to the many of us! Cheers! 


Re: Baofenging

Gerry - WA6E
 

I hadn't thought about those old calculators in years.  Wasn't one RPN?  Those required more attention when using.

Gerry
WA6E

On 11/27/2021 8:32 PM, Dennis - WU6X wrote:
I really don't think you can just lump ALL Baofeng's into the "will not pass FCC" type acceptance category. Certain models are perfectly clean and acceptable. I have a BTech UV-5x3 tri-bander, for example, and it looks beautiful on a communications analyzer, and compares to the Yaesu, Kenwood and Icom at a fraction of the cost.

My only complaint has always been fit and feel, like comparing a Texas Instrument calculator against and HP calculator. The HP just had that feel of quality and button-push perfection the TI calculators never achieved, in my opinion.

73,
Dennis - WU6X


From: sfarc@w6ek.groups.io <sfarc@w6ek.groups.io> on behalf of Jef - N5JEF <jef@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 12:31 PM
To: sfarc@w6ek.groups.io <sfarc@w6ek.groups.io>; n6medjim@... <n6medjim@...>
Subject: Re: [from W6EK Groups.io] Baofenging
 
Jim, thanks for sharing this important but often unpopular information.

  • It's worth adding that it's their dirty _transmit_ performance that causes them to be banned by the FCC, and these European agencies.
  • Their _receive_ performance is similarly unclean and subject to desense (blocking) and IMD (intermodulation distortion), but that affects only the individual user so it's not subject to regulation.

That said, when the unfiltered front end is not being overloaded by the RF around it the Baofeng has good sensitivity and sounds okay on receive. And on transmit most of the time the unfiltered output garbage is not noticeable (by the person using it)—so it's a great radio for the price, and one that you don't need to worry about if you lose it.

[And I've heard that if you take a chance and go ahead and get one of those government-approved radios pushed by the likes of Kenwood, Yaesu, Icom, or Motorola, your friends might notice certain unexpected changes in your radio behavior…such as hearing and talking to people that they they don't…]

So carry on all y'all, and 73.

- Jef  N5JEF 

On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 11:24 AM Jim - N6MED <n6medjim@...> wrote:
For the curious and academically interested due the radio's popularity with many of our club members. Stumbled upon this from a post on the FB group "My ARRL Voice"

https://ei7gl.blogspot.com/2021/11/baofeng-uv5r-is-banned-for-sale-by.html?fbclid=IwAR2JfsINPvKGdaf5DhJ9DHDK3HqmOTxZRKYpVufCJUlkHG0XAB3mSymHw9s

or
https://tinyurl.com/y4frycwv

Hope everyone had a great Bird Day!

--
Dennis - WU6X


Re: We have a new EXTRA Amoung Us!

KM6YKX - Rob Newburn
 

Congratulations Smitty!

Rob - KM6YKX


Re: Baofenging

Dennis - WU6X
 

I really don't think you can just lump ALL Baofeng's into the "will not pass FCC" type acceptance category. Certain models are perfectly clean and acceptable. I have a BTech UV-5x3 tri-bander, for example, and it looks beautiful on a communications analyzer, and compares to the Yaesu, Kenwood and Icom at a fraction of the cost.

My only complaint has always been fit and feel, like comparing a Texas Instrument calculator against and HP calculator. The HP just had that feel of quality and button-push perfection the TI calculators never achieved, in my opinion.

73,
Dennis - WU6X


From: sfarc@w6ek.groups.io <sfarc@w6ek.groups.io> on behalf of Jef - N5JEF <jef@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 12:31 PM
To: sfarc@w6ek.groups.io <sfarc@w6ek.groups.io>; n6medjim@... <n6medjim@...>
Subject: Re: [from W6EK Groups.io] Baofenging
 
Jim, thanks for sharing this important but often unpopular information.

  • It's worth adding that it's their dirty _transmit_ performance that causes them to be banned by the FCC, and these European agencies.
  • Their _receive_ performance is similarly unclean and subject to desense (blocking) and IMD (intermodulation distortion), but that affects only the individual user so it's not subject to regulation.

That said, when the unfiltered front end is not being overloaded by the RF around it the Baofeng has good sensitivity and sounds okay on receive. And on transmit most of the time the unfiltered output garbage is not noticeable (by the person using it)—so it's a great radio for the price, and one that you don't need to worry about if you lose it.

[And I've heard that if you take a chance and go ahead and get one of those government-approved radios pushed by the likes of Kenwood, Yaesu, Icom, or Motorola, your friends might notice certain unexpected changes in your radio behavior…such as hearing and talking to people that they they don't…]

So carry on all y'all, and 73.

- Jef  N5JEF 

On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 11:24 AM Jim - N6MED <n6medjim@...> wrote:
For the curious and academically interested due the radio's popularity with many of our club members. Stumbled upon this from a post on the FB group "My ARRL Voice"

https://ei7gl.blogspot.com/2021/11/baofeng-uv5r-is-banned-for-sale-by.html?fbclid=IwAR2JfsINPvKGdaf5DhJ9DHDK3HqmOTxZRKYpVufCJUlkHG0XAB3mSymHw9s

or
https://tinyurl.com/y4frycwv

Hope everyone had a great Bird Day!


--
Dennis - WU6X


Re: We have a new EXTRA Amoung Us!

Phil - KM6NFS
 

Well done Smitty! And +1 for the BttF quote!

73,

Phil KM6NFS


Re: We have a new EXTRA Amoung Us!

Al - WB6RUU
 

Congratulations Smitty!


On Nov 27, 2021, at 5:09 PM, Anders - K3REH <anders@...> wrote:


Very cool! CONGRATULATIONS Smitty!! 
Most productive way to spend Thanksgiving for sure!

Also thank you again Orion for the awesome class!

I did my Tech online with New England Sci-Tech (NEAR). I first took their class, run by Bob Phinney, K5TEC. 
At that time online testing was fairly new and there were only a handful VE teams doing it. They certainly kept a strict protocol (no external mouse, 2 cameras, scanning the room, don't let your eyes leave the screen etc..) but all was well communicated in advance, and they had no hard time constraint. I'd certainly recommend them for online testing. https://nescitech.org/

The General and Extra test was in person with Western Placer ARC at a Round Table place in Roseville. I had no previous affiliation - just happened to be a time and place that worked with my schedule. Very relaxed, no time constraint and nice group. I believe they offer testing regularly, first Tuesday of each month. Certainly recommended! https://wparc.us, or email Loius Frank, KG6FCT, lmfrank@...

No that I had planned to, but I guess I have to get going on CW now so you're not getting lazy! ;)

Congrats again, Mr. AE!

// Anders, K3REH


------ Original Message ------
From: "Smitty - K9CCO" <K9CCO@...>
Sent: 2021-11-27 15:41:53
Subject: Re: [from W6EK Groups.io] We have a new EXTRA Amoung Us!

My mom used to tell me I LOVED attention so I'll go with that Orion. :)

As Paul Harvey would say, "here's the rest of the story" (aka. the top 5 reasons I went for it):
  1. I took the extra after I took my general last Friday and failed it, but not by much.  The voice in the back of my head was saying, "Dude, spend a little time studying while it's all fresh and try again.
  2. I was trying to keep up with Anders, that beast took both tests in one sitting. 🙂
  3. I was trying to show others in the club how amazing our SFARC courses are.
  4. I'd like to be a VE for all levels.
  5. I was inspired by my class instructors to "go all the way".
^^ Pick which one you like. 🙂
As Doc Brown says, "When you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything".  Thanks for all the encouragement.

For the rest of you in the club, If you're thinking about remote testing, here's some advice/tips...

I've heard from three people that GLARG does a great job (I believe Anders used them).  AARC was awesome when I tested for my general, GREAT experience.  PARC (the group I used for the extra) left a lot to be desired.  No scratch paper was allowed, I wasn't allowed to use my mouse during the test to select my answers, only the keyboard (got a warning for touching my mouse - did it out of habit).  My hands had to stay on the keyboard and I was given what seemed like 10 minutes (likely closer to 15) but was told I was "almost out of time" which made it extra stressful and left me little to no time to review my answers.  The main VE read off a script the whole time and showed little to no emotion.  I actually asked to scratch my nose a few times during the test because I didn't want to fail since I had already had a warning for using my mouse.

In short, I wouldn't recommend PARC if you're thinking about doing remote testing, BUT highly recommend AARC!!!

73, Smitty (K9CCO/AE)



From: sfarc@w6ek.groups.io <sfarc@w6ek.groups.io> on behalf of Orion - AI6JB <ojendres@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 11:48 AM
To: sfarc@w6ek.groups.io <sfarc@w6ek.groups.io>
Subject: [from W6EK Groups.io] We have a new EXTRA Amoung Us!
 
Our dear attention loving friend Smitty, K9CCO, loved all the congratualtions he received from you all for attainig the General class.    So much so, he needs more!

Everyone, please help me congratulate Smitty, K9CCO/AE, on passing his Extra!

Congratulations Smitty!  Way to go!!

73
Orion, AI6JB

--

73's

Smitty K9CCO


Re: We have a new EXTRA Amoung Us!

Anders - K3REH
 

Very cool! CONGRATULATIONS Smitty!! 
Most productive way to spend Thanksgiving for sure!

Also thank you again Orion for the awesome class!

I did my Tech online with New England Sci-Tech (NEAR). I first took their class, run by Bob Phinney, K5TEC. 
At that time online testing was fairly new and there were only a handful VE teams doing it. They certainly kept a strict protocol (no external mouse, 2 cameras, scanning the room, don't let your eyes leave the screen etc..) but all was well communicated in advance, and they had no hard time constraint. I'd certainly recommend them for online testing. https://nescitech.org/

The General and Extra test was in person with Western Placer ARC at a Round Table place in Roseville. I had no previous affiliation - just happened to be a time and place that worked with my schedule. Very relaxed, no time constraint and nice group. I believe they offer testing regularly, first Tuesday of each month. Certainly recommended! https://wparc.us, or email Loius Frank, KG6FCT, lmfrank@...

No that I had planned to, but I guess I have to get going on CW now so you're not getting lazy! ;)

Congrats again, Mr. AE!

// Anders, K3REH


------ Original Message ------
From: "Smitty - K9CCO" <K9CCO@...>
Sent: 2021-11-27 15:41:53
Subject: Re: [from W6EK Groups.io] We have a new EXTRA Amoung Us!

My mom used to tell me I LOVED attention so I'll go with that Orion. :)

As Paul Harvey would say, "here's the rest of the story" (aka. the top 5 reasons I went for it):
  1. I took the extra after I took my general last Friday and failed it, but not by much.  The voice in the back of my head was saying, "Dude, spend a little time studying while it's all fresh and try again.
  2. I was trying to keep up with Anders, that beast took both tests in one sitting. 🙂
  3. I was trying to show others in the club how amazing our SFARC courses are.
  4. I'd like to be a VE for all levels.
  5. I was inspired by my class instructors to "go all the way".
^^ Pick which one you like. 🙂
As Doc Brown says, "When you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything".  Thanks for all the encouragement.

For the rest of you in the club, If you're thinking about remote testing, here's some advice/tips...

I've heard from three people that GLARG does a great job (I believe Anders used them).  AARC was awesome when I tested for my general, GREAT experience.  PARC (the group I used for the extra) left a lot to be desired.  No scratch paper was allowed, I wasn't allowed to use my mouse during the test to select my answers, only the keyboard (got a warning for touching my mouse - did it out of habit).  My hands had to stay on the keyboard and I was given what seemed like 10 minutes (likely closer to 15) but was told I was "almost out of time" which made it extra stressful and left me little to no time to review my answers.  The main VE read off a script the whole time and showed little to no emotion.  I actually asked to scratch my nose a few times during the test because I didn't want to fail since I had already had a warning for using my mouse.

In short, I wouldn't recommend PARC if you're thinking about doing remote testing, BUT highly recommend AARC!!!

73, Smitty (K9CCO/AE)



From: sfarc@w6ek.groups.io <sfarc@w6ek.groups.io> on behalf of Orion - AI6JB <ojendres@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 11:48 AM
To: sfarc@w6ek.groups.io <sfarc@w6ek.groups.io>
Subject: [from W6EK Groups.io] We have a new EXTRA Amoung Us!
 
Our dear attention loving friend Smitty, K9CCO, loved all the congratualtions he received from you all for attainig the General class.    So much so, he needs more!

Everyone, please help me congratulate Smitty, K9CCO/AE, on passing his Extra!

Congratulations Smitty!  Way to go!!

73
Orion, AI6JB

--

73's

Smitty K9CCO


Re: We have a new EXTRA Amoung Us!

Smitty - K9CCO
 

My mom used to tell me I LOVED attention so I'll go with that Orion. :)

As Paul Harvey would say, "here's the rest of the story" (aka. the top 5 reasons I went for it):
  1. I took the extra after I took my general last Friday and failed it, but not by much.  The voice in the back of my head was saying, "Dude, spend a little time studying while it's all fresh and try again.
  2. I was trying to keep up with Anders, that beast took both tests in one sitting. 🙂
  3. I was trying to show others in the club how amazing our SFARC courses are.
  4. I'd like to be a VE for all levels.
  5. I was inspired by my class instructors to "go all the way".
^^ Pick which one you like. 🙂
As Doc Brown says, "When you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything".  Thanks for all the encouragement.

For the rest of you in the club, If you're thinking about remote testing, here's some advice/tips...

I've heard from three people that GLARG does a great job (I believe Anders used them).  AARC was awesome when I tested for my general, GREAT experience.  PARC (the group I used for the extra) left a lot to be desired.  No scratch paper was allowed, I wasn't allowed to use my mouse during the test to select my answers, only the keyboard (got a warning for touching my mouse - did it out of habit).  My hands had to stay on the keyboard and I was given what seemed like 10 minutes (likely closer to 15) but was told I was "almost out of time" which made it extra stressful and left me little to no time to review my answers.  The main VE read off a script the whole time and showed little to no emotion.  I actually asked to scratch my nose a few times during the test because I didn't want to fail since I had already had a warning for using my mouse.

In short, I wouldn't recommend PARC if you're thinking about doing remote testing, BUT highly recommend AARC!!!

73, Smitty (K9CCO/AE)



From: sfarc@w6ek.groups.io <sfarc@w6ek.groups.io> on behalf of Orion - AI6JB <ojendres@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 11:48 AM
To: sfarc@w6ek.groups.io <sfarc@w6ek.groups.io>
Subject: [from W6EK Groups.io] We have a new EXTRA Amoung Us!
 
Our dear attention loving friend Smitty, K9CCO, loved all the congratualtions he received from you all for attainig the General class.    So much so, he needs more!

Everyone, please help me congratulate Smitty, K9CCO/AE, on passing his Extra!

Congratulations Smitty!  Way to go!!

73
Orion, AI6JB

--

73's

Smitty K9CCO


Re: We have a new EXTRA Amoung Us!

Greg - KO6TH
 

Congrats, Smitty!  How are you going to top this?

Greg  KO6TH


Orion - AI6JB wrote:

Our dear attention loving friend Smitty, K9CCO, loved all the congratualtions he received from you all for attainig the General class.    So much so, he needs more!

Everyone, please help me congratulate Smitty, K9CCO/AE, on passing his Extra!

Congratulations Smitty!  Way to go!!

73
Orion, AI6JB

1 - 20 of 7683